The Aporia · Cops Are Asking Axon to Make Their Cameras Look Different From Flock So People Don't Destroy Them

Axon's CEO Rick Smith revealed in a now-deleted webinar that police are asking the company to make its automatic license plate readers (ALPRs) look different from Flock cameras due to widespread vandalism of Flock devices. The number of vandalized Flock cameras is not explicitly stated, but authorities have arrested and charged multiple people for destroying them. Axon is considering redesigning its Outpost ALPR camera or making it look more like a streetlight-mounted Lightpost product, which is harder to vandalize. This comes as some towns and cities are switching from Flock to Axon's cameras due to concerns over their use in tracking individuals without warrants.

Written locally by qwen2.5:14b on 2026-09-03, using this article's own text rather than the other coverage of the same event (that is the story summary below).

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Benn Jordan, a YouTube host, wanted to attend the Flock Safety convention in Atlanta to investigate the company's relationship with law enforcement. However, after discovering that Flock had canceled his ticket and was trying to keep him out, he decided to set up radio equipment and a drone outside the convention center to unmask attendees and even listen to microphones inside. Jordan's actions were in response to Flock's claims that police customers don't need a warrant to track drivers with its automated license plate reading cameras because drivers have "no reasonable expectation of privacy" on public roads.

Flock Safety has 120,000 cameras across 49 states and works with over 5,000 law enforcement agencies, capturing more than 20 billion license plate scans every month. The company's CEO, Garrett Langley, appeared on Fox News to plead for a national "compromise" to save the company from efforts to ban its technology outright.

Meanwhile, some law enforcement agencies are asking Axon to redesign their automatic license plate readers (ALPRs) to look different from Flock cameras due to widespread vandalism of Flock's devices. Axon has reported that some towns and cities are switching from Flock to Axon's cameras after discovering abuses of access to stalk ex-spouses, among other concerns.

The controversy surrounding Flock Safety highlights the need for strong legal protections against mass surveillance technology, rather than simply banning a single company or product.

Written for “Flock Camera Controversy” on 2026-10-19, grounded in this article and the 4 other(s) covering the same event.

📰 Flock Camera Controversy

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Reason

⚖️ Leans left further left than this 🔴 16% hedged 32 of 203 📰 publisher trust 94

“Both articles discuss the backlash against Flock cameras, specifically vandalism incidents, and mention Axon as a competitor trying to capitalize on this trend.”

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404 Media

⚖️ Leans strongly right further right than this 🔴 5% hedged 2 of 43 📰 publisher trust 95

“Article A discusses Axon's efforts to redesign their cameras due to vandalism, while Article B describes a webinar where Flock taught law enforcement how to use their technology for surveillance, with no mention of vandalism or camera design”

Flock cameras draw opposition from across the political spectrum different event · 90%

NPR

⚖️ Leans left further left than this 🔴 4% hedged 1 of 26 📰 publisher trust 60

“The articles cover different aspects of a broader issue regarding Flock cameras, one article discussing Axon's response to Flock vandalism and the other focusing on the growing opposition from various political parties.”

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⚖️ leaning not scored 🔴 8% hedged 4 of 51 📰 publisher trust 67

“Article A reports on Axon's response to Flock vandalism and switching from one camera brand, while Article B discusses a new bill introduced by lawmakers in opposition to Flock-Enabled Mass Surveillance”

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“Article A mentions law enforcement switching from Flock to Axon cameras due to backlash, while Article B reports on Florida revoking permits for all license-plate-recognition cameras, including those of Flock and its competitors.”

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In an August 26 webinar that was hosted on Axon’s official Vimeo page called “From backlash to trust,” Axon Chief Customer Officer Mike Wagers took a question from the remote audience and asked, “is there any talk — and there has been talk — to redesign Outpost, our fixed ALPR camera, to not look exactly like a Flock camera?”

framing: assertive · carried by 1 article(s) · first seen 2026-09-03

🔮 The comments highlight how Axon is trying to take advantage of sustained opposition against Flock's license plate cameras, with one law enforcement customer suggesting a camera redesign would “help with the optics while we batten down the hatches” as the backlash spreads.

2026-09-03 · 404 Media

Cops Are Asking Axon to Make Their Cameras Look Different From Flock So People Don't Destroy Them · assertive framing

Axon says cops are asking it to make its automatic license plate readers (ALPRs) look different from Flock cameras because Flock vandalism has become so widespread, according to comments Axon’s CEO made in a now deleted webinar. uncertain

CEO → say → webinar

The comments highlight how Axon is trying to take advantage of sustained opposition against Flock's license plate cameras, with one law enforcement customer suggesting a camera redesign would “help with the optics while we batten down the hatches” as the backlash spreads. asserted

backlash → highlight → hatches

As 404 Media has reported, some towns and cities are switching from Flock to Axon’s cameras after cops did lookups for ICE in Flock, tracked a woman who self-administered an abortion, and have repeatedly abused their access to stalk ex-spouses. asserted

who → report → spouses

ALPRs constantly scan the license plate, brand, model, and other identifying features of all vehicles that drive past the camera and then make this timestamped log of activity searchable by law enforcement without a warrant. asserted

log → scan → warrant

Wagers → host → camera

“We are looking at [...] do we change the general shape,” Rick Smith, Axon’s CEO, replied. asserted

Smith → look → shape

At another point in the webinar, Smith brought up Axon’s Lightpost product, which is an ALPR and AI-powered camera that attaches to an existing streetlight. asserted

that → bring → streetlight

“Frankly, we’ve had a lot of customers saying, hey, we’d like something that looks different because there is all this blowback. asserted

that → have → something

It's harder to vandalize because it's up higher,” he said. asserted

he → vandalize → ?

Smith also said, “We’ve had some people say they’d like to see us make just a different camera, because our ALPR camera looks like an ALPR camera.” asserted

camera → say → camera

Another idea Smith brought up, pending customer feedback, is to go in the other direction and make ALPRs more explicit, with signs showing where they are located and a description of the city’s ALPR policies. asserted

they → bring → policies

MegaraMedia, a YouTuber, downloaded a copy of the webinar before it was removed and shared it with 404 Media. asserted

it → download → Media

During the webinar, Axon asked its law enforcement customers to chime in with questions and answer a customer survey. asserted

Axon → ask → survey

404 Media scanned the QR code displayed during the webinar to view those questions. asserted

Media → scan → questions

One, which appears to be the one Wagers paraphrased, read, “Is there any talk to redesign the Outpost to not look exactly like the Flock camera — I think it will help agencies with the optics while we batten down the hatches…” asserted

we → appear → hatches

Axon did not respond to a request for comment. asserted

Axon → respond → comment

Around the country people have destroyed Flock cameras, including tearing them down, backing trucks into them, or spray painting over their lenses. asserted

people → destroy → lenses

Authorities have arrested and charged multiple people in connection with that vandalism. asserted

Authorities → arrest → vandalism

In one case, a cop made a fake, 3D-printed Flock camera to essentially act as bait; authorities then charged a man who broke the fake camera with three felonies. asserted

who → make → felonies

One explicit reason some cities have ditched Flock for Axon is Flock’s national network. asserted

cities → ditch → Axon

This allows a cop on one side of the country to search cameras not only in their own jurisdiction or state, but in another state entirely. asserted

cop → allow → state

When reporting on how local cops were performing Flock lookups for ICE, 404 Media found that some police departments did not know or understand their cameras were accessible by other agencies. asserted

cameras → report → agencies

Smith said of the backlash against Flock and ALPR more generally: “This has been a hell of a storm.” asserted

This → say → storm

Cops Are Asking Axon to Make Their Cameras Look Different From Flock So People Don't Destroy Them

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