‘I just give it to them straight in the chest’: Roberts-Smith has no regrets about his military career

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Surdo, D. L., & Bachelard, M. (2026, October 22). ‘I just give it to them straight in the chest’: Roberts-Smith has no regrets about his military career. The Sydney Morning Herald. https://www.smh.com.au/national/i-just-give-it-to-them-straight-in-the-chest-roberts-smith-has-no-regrets-about-his-military-career-20261022-p617uk.html?ref=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss_feed

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The Sydney Morning Herald · collected 2026-10-22 · by Daniel Lo Surdo, Michael Bachelard

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Ben Roberts-Smith, facing criminal charges of murder from his time in Afghanistan, appeared on Sydney radio and published an extensive interview denying all five war crime charges. He maintains that each incident was a legitimate act of self-defense during wartime and emphasizes his nickname "Front Dagger," stating, “I just give it to them straight in the chest.” Roberts-Smith also launched a new clothing line called Epic 1 Two, which he claims will support his family during legal battles, funded by Kerry Stokes with an estimated $30 million.
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Story summary

Ben Roberts-Smith, a former Australian SAS commando facing five war crimes charges for alleged murders in Afghanistan between 2009 and 2012, was interviewed by Ben Fordham on radio station 2GB. The two-and-a-half-hour interview aired on October 21, also premiering on YouTube the same day as part of a new strategy to reach audiences via digital platforms. During the interview, Roberts-Smith denied shooting prisoners or witnessing fellow soldiers do so and stated he would not change anything about his military career despite facing serious allegations. The Victoria Cross recipient, who recently launched an apparel brand called EPIC 1 TWO, also faced tough questions from Fordham regarding alleged incidents where weapons were placed on dead bodies to misrepresent the circumstances of their deaths. This interview comes ahead of Roberts-Smith’s upcoming criminal trial and follows a defamation case in which a judge found that he murdered one civilian and three combatants who were not posing any threat at the time, findings contested by Roberts-Smith during his radio appearance.

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📰 Ben Roberts-Smith Interviewed Live Updates
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Daily Mail
⚖️ leaning not scored 🔴 7% hedged 4 of 56 📰 publisher trust 64
“Both articles describe Ben Roberts-Smith's interview with Ben Fordham on Sydney radio regarding his military career and denial of charges, occurring on the same day.”
The Sydney Morning Herald
⚖️ leaning not scored 🔴 9% hedged 5 of 57 📰 publisher trust 61
“Both articles describe Ben Roberts-Smith's interview on radio station 2GB and related activities on the same day, covering his defense against murder charges and interactions with media.”
The Sydney Morning Herald
⚖️ leaning not scored 🔴 33% hedged 1 of 3 📰 publisher trust 61
“Both articles describe the same detailed interview with Ben Roberts-Smith on the same day, including his claims about his military career and legal situation.”
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Daniel Lo Surdo
29 article(s) here · 1 carrying a prediction
🔮 Ben Roberts-Smith launched a multimedia blitz on Thursday to go with his new clothing label, denying five charges of the war crime of murder ahead of his criminal trial and insisting he would not change a thing from his military career.
🔮 Tom Malone, chief executive of Tapt Media, which owns 2GB and 3AW, said the interview will showcase the company’s digital transformation in its new era owned by pokies and publican billionaire family, the Laundys.
🔮 The manhunt began after 10.20am on Friday when the man was allegedly confronted over a stolen van taken from a nearby inner west suburb days earlier. He allegedly set fire to the van, near an apartment complex at Williams Parade and Constitution Road in Dulwich Hill, and waved the shotgun at three witnesses, before fleeing on foot with the weapon. Nearby businesses, cafes and schools were put into lockdown on Friday as tactical police, along with the police helicopter, combed nearby streets for the alleged gunman.
🔮 Officers have established the operation near Williams Parade and Constitution Road, urging public to avoid the area as they sweep the scene.
2026-10-16 · assertive framing · Gun shots in Dulwich Hill, police lock down area
🔮 A post-mortem examination will be held to determine the child’s cause of death.
🔮 The investigation of the botched assassination attempt was handed to detectives under Taskforce Falcon, the NSW Police initiative launched in May 2025 to confront escalating gangland violence across Sydney.
🔮 “I could just smell petrol all over, my hairs singed, my eyebrows, got smoke in my eyes, just everything, just been pumping me with water.
🔮 Police announced the establishment of Strike Force Mexvo on Wednesday morning, which will bring together specialist detectives with officers from the Sex Crimes Squad to investigate whether the incidents are linked.
🔮 Investigators believe the boy, who cannot be legally identified, may have been one of several people handling an illegal gun when it discharged inside an apartment in the Moda complex in Norwest.
🔮 At least two other young people present during the attack are expected to be charged, Batchelor said.
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Gun shots in Dulwich Hill, police lock down area
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Michael Bachelard
11 article(s) here · 1 carrying a prediction
🔮 Ben Roberts-Smith launched a multimedia blitz on Thursday to go with his new clothing label, denying five charges of the war crime of murder ahead of his criminal trial and insisting he would not change a thing from his military career.
🔮 On the practice of using “throw downs” to frame victims as combatants. “We were told to put weapons on the bodies for the photographs because they wanted it all in one photo, so we could send it back.
2026-10-22 · assertive framing · Ben Roberts-Smith’s 2GB interview fact-checked
🔮 Tom Malone, chief executive of Tapt Media, which owns 2GB and 3AW, said the interview will showcase the company’s digital transformation in its new era owned by pokies and publican billionaire family, the Laundys.
🔮 “It had all the credibility of a Melbourne weather forecast,” said Ryan, after the hearing.
🔮 “The Brethren may be the first to face this, but I do not believe they will be the last,” wrote Pastor Lucas Miles, who leads Turning Point USA Faith, in a recent post on social media platform X.
🔮 A young Australian taken as a boy to live with the Islamic State was on the brink of travelling home when American soldiers snatched him from a Syrian prison and transported him to Iraq, where he could face trial on terror charges.
🔮 The family of a young Australian taken as a 12-year-old boy to live under Islamic State in 2015 believes he could be released in coming weeks after indications emerging from Iraq that he would not face trial as a criminal.
🔮 “What will eventually bring in finality to the whole Jewish question, that remains in the hands of Christ and perfectly under the control of God.”
🔮 How thick could you get?
🔮 Angela Bell plans to fly out this week with human rights lawyer Bernadette Zaydan to Idlib province in Syria as her son, Patrick Stevenson – a 20-year-old convert to Islam – waits in a local prison facing charges that, if proven, could result in the death penalty.
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Ben Roberts-Smith’s 2GB interview fact-checked
2026-10-22 · The Sydney Morning Herald
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Topics

Afghan Afghans Epic 1 Two SAS Sydney

Subjects

Roberts-Smith PERSON · 10× Fordham PERSON · 4× Afghan NORP · 1× Afghans NORP · 1× Anthony Besanko PERSON · 1× Ben Fordham PERSON · 1× Ben Roberts-Smith PERSON · 1× Besanko PERSON · 1× SAS ORG · 1× Sydney GPE · 1×

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The previous law, passed in 2002, said a person was hors de combat (out of action) in a battlefield if they were under control, and had clearly expressed an intention to surrender or was incapacitated by wounds or sickness, and was abstaining from hostile acts and not attempting to escape.
framing: assertive · carried by 1 article(s) · first seen 2026-10-22
🔮 Ben Roberts-Smith launched a multimedia blitz on Thursday to go with his new clothing label, denying five charges of the war crime of murder ahead of his criminal trial and insisting he would not change a thing from his military career.

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Ben Roberts-Smith launched a multimedia blitz on Thursday to go with his new clothing label, denying five charges of the war crime of murder ahead of his criminal trial and insisting he would not change a thing from his military career. asserted
he → launch → career
In a chummy 2½-hour interview with Sydney radio jock Ben Fordham, and a simultaneous 6000-word news.com.au story billed “Exclusive”, Roberts-Smith denied murdering five Afghan detainees between 2009 and 2012. asserted
Smith → bill → 2009
Each killing had been a legitimate engagement involving split-second decisions conducted in the fog of war, he claimed. asserted
he → involve → war
A judge in a long-running defamation case that involved multiple SAS witnesses found to the civil standard in 2023 that Roberts-Smith had committed four murders – of one civilian and three combatants who were “under control” and posing no threat. asserted
who → run → threat
The civil case judge, Anthony Besanko, found that Roberts-Smith had kicked the civilian off a cliff, smashing his face on a rock, then ordered another soldier to shoot him dead. asserted
Smith → find → him
Besanko also found that three other Afghans had been out of action, under control and posing no threat when Roberts-Smith either killed them or ordered others to do so. asserted
Smith → find → others
Bullying complaints were also found proved against him. asserted
complaints → find → him
Roberts-Smith answered this in the interview with Fordham by revealing his nickname in the military had been “Front Dagger”. asserted
nickname → answer → military
“I don’t stab people in the back. asserted
I → stab → back
I just give it to them straight in the chest,” he said. asserted
he → give → chest
The media interviews come as Roberts-Smith launches a new clothing brand, Epic 1 Two, named after one of his military call-signs. asserted
Smith → come → signs
The former soldier wore a branded T-shirt on the YouTube feed that aired the full Fordham interview. asserted
that → wear → interview
Roberts-Smith has said the label, which he launched with the social media tagline “Stay comfortable in the chaos”, will fund his family during his legal battles. asserted
he → say → battles
He revealed to Fordham that Seven Network media tycoon Kerry Stokes had spent “upwards of $30 million” on the losing defamation case, which Roberts-Smith brought against The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Canberra Times. asserted
Smith → reveal → Age
Stokes had funded him because “he believed in me”, the former soldier said. “He’s never taken a position about, you know, innocence or guilt. asserted
you → fund → innocence
It’s just, you deserve to go through the process fairly.” asserted
you → ’ → process
Roberts-Smith’s criminal charges have since become a cause celebre for conservatives in Australia. asserted
charges → become → Australia
One Nation leader Pauline Hanson and mining billionaire Gina Rinehart, a Hanson sponsor, have argued he has been falsely accused and called his detractors, including WA Liberal MP Andrew Hastie, “traitors”. asserted
he → argue → Hastie
Apparently seeking to capitalise on this political moment, Roberts-Smith raised the notion of a “fair go” regularly during the interviews as he tried to humanise his image. asserted
he → seek → image
“If it was your son, or your husband, or your brother in that position, would you like them to have a fair go?” the former soldier asked Fordham. asserted
soldier → like → Fordham
“Remember that I’m also a father. asserted
I → remember → ?
I’m a son. asserted
I → ’m → ?
I’m a brother. asserted
I → ’m → ?
I’m a partner, and at the base level, I’m a human being who’s just trying to deal with the situation that has been put on them. asserted
that → ’m → them
Every caller and every text message broadcast on the radio program was positive. asserted
caller → broadcast → program
Roberts-Smith said in the interview with News Corp that he had contemplated suicide after allegations surfaced in this masthead in 2017. asserted
allegations → say → 2017
Referring to the investigative reporting that revealed the war crimes allegations, he said, “psychologically, that takes a toll”. asserted
that → refer → toll
“At that point, which probably played out over about three to six months of thinking about that every day, that’s rock bottom,” he said. asserted
he → play → that
What saved him, he said, was “the kids [and] the fact that if I took my own life, they [his detractors] would win. asserted
they → save → life
They would be able to say I did it because I was guilty, and my family would have to live with that shame.” asserted
family → say → shame
He also complained about his arrest at Sydney Airport on April 7 on a plane from Brisbane in front of his partner, Sarah Matulin, and his children. asserted
He → complain → partner
He said it had been farcical, and “such a deliberate attempt to sensationalise the arrest”. asserted
it → say → arrest
Roberts-Smith said he had been wrong to stay silent before and during the defamation case because he “trusted the system”. asserted
he → say → system
He also complained about the uneven playing field in Australia, with government funding for defence and prosecution cases in criminal trials. asserted
He → complain → trials
Even though his defence was being funded by the taxpayer, his lawyers were paid for only six hours a day while “they’ll pay the prosecution lawyers 10 hours a day”, he complained to Fordham. asserted
he → fund → Fordham
“There is no parity, and that’s not what justice is about.” asserted
justice → be → what
“This time I want a spotlight on the proceedings and more transparency,” he told News Corp. Roberts-Smith also added his voice to Pauline Hanson’s in a complaint about a 2024 change to Australia’s war crimes legislation. asserted
Smith → want → legislation
The previous law, passed in 2002, said a person was hors de combat (out of action) in a battlefield if they were under control, and had clearly expressed an intention to surrender or was incapacitated by wounds or sickness, and was abstaining from hostile acts and not attempting to escape. asserted
they → pass → acts
The 2024 change meant that only one of the three conditions needed to be met to establish a war crime if such a person was harmed. asserted
person → mean → crime
The change was made retrospective. asserted
change → make → ?
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