Why 'loyal' Karl Stefanovic lost the Ben Roberts-Smith interview he thought was his... as Ben Fordham tells his side of the story and sources insist Karl is 'furious': INSIDE MAIL

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Comino, N., Bray, J., Mcknight, R., & Scrimshire, J. (2026, October 21). Why 'loyal' Karl Stefanovic lost the Ben Roberts-Smith interview he thought was his... as Ben Fordham tells his side of the story and sources insist Karl is 'furious': INSIDE MAIL. Daily Mail. https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16219459/karl-stefanovic-ben-fordham-ben-roberts-smith-interview-podcast-exclusive.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=1490

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Daily Mail · collected 2026-10-21 · by Nicholas Comino, Jonica Bray, Rob Mcknight, Jo Scrimshire

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Karl Stefanovic lost a highly anticipated interview with Ben Roberts-Smith to radio host Ben Fordham, according to sources quoted in this article. The exclusive interview was expected to boost Stefanovic's podcast and reputation after his departure from Channel Nine and legal disputes, but Roberts-Smith chose Fordham at the last minute due to concerns over Stefanovic's recent negative publicity. Stefanovic is reportedly furious about the decision, believing his loyalty should have secured the interview for him.
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As of 2026-10-21, Karl Stefanovic lost a coveted interview with former SAS soldier and veteran Ben Roberts-Smith to his long-time media colleague Ben Fordham, according to sources quoted by the News | Mail Online. This was a significant setback for Stefanovic, who had hoped the exclusive interview would help restore his reputation following a messy exit from Channel Nine and a legal battle with his former business partner. Stefanovic reportedly believed he secured Roberts-Smith's agreement for an explosive tell-all about clearing his name. However, the actual interview went to Fordham, leaving Stefanovic "furious," as sources claim. The decision was particularly hard on Stefanovic, who had been building anticipation by posting a photo of himself with some of Roberts-Smith’s merchandise on social media days before the loss.

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Nicholas Comino
71 article(s) here · 1 carrying a prediction
🔮 This time, he's missed out on the blockbuster first interview with Ben Roberts-Smith that he hoped would restore his battered reputation.
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Jonica Bray
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🔮 This time, he's missed out on the blockbuster first interview with Ben Roberts-Smith that he hoped would restore his battered reputation.
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🔮 So when rumours began circulating that the radio star may be drinking again, we went straight to her manager, Gemma O'Neill.
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Rob Mcknight
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🔮 This time, he's missed out on the blockbuster first interview with Ben Roberts-Smith that he hoped would restore his battered reputation.
🔮 The judge ordered that she pay Waterhouse's costs on an indemnity basis, a much harsher order than ordinary costs and one that could leave her responsible for the vast majority of his legal bill relating to the claims against her.
🔮 So when rumours began circulating that the radio star may be drinking again, we went straight to her manager, Gemma O'Neill.
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Jo Scrimshire
2 article(s) here · 1 carrying a prediction
🔮 This time, he's missed out on the blockbuster first interview with Ben Roberts-Smith that he hoped would restore his battered reputation.
🔮 The judge ordered that she pay Waterhouse's costs on an indemnity basis, a much harsher order than ordinary costs and one that could leave her responsible for the vast majority of his legal bill relating to the claims against her.
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Topics

AUSTRALIA Fordham Inside Mail SAS Today

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Stefanovic PERSON · 7× AUSTRALIA GPE · 5× Fordham ORG · 4× Roberts-Smith PERSON · 3× SAS ORG · 3× Ben Fordham PERSON · 2× Ben Roberts-Smith PERSON · 2× Inside Mail ORG · 2× Karl Stefanovic PERSON · 2× Today ORG · 2×

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Inside Mail has been told the former Today host was convinced he had secured the interview coup of the year, with former SAS soldier Ben Roberts-Smith agreeing to sit down for an explosive tell-all about his fight to clear his name On Wednesday, Karl's wife Jasmine posted a photo of him wearing some of BRS's merch The decision, we are told, was particularly bruising for Stefanovic, who has been good mates with Fordham for years and is said to be furious with both men.
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🔮 This time, he's missed out on the blockbuster first interview with Ben Roberts-Smith that he hoped would restore his battered reputation.

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- Production insiders on the reality of Seven's 'cut-price' I'm a Celebrity - Liberals leak against the party's 'circus of rejects' rushing to join One Nation By JONICA BRAY, SENIOR NEWS REPORTER, AUSTRALIA and NICHOLAS COMINO, POLITICAL REPORTER, AUSTRALIA and ROB MCKNIGHT and JOSEPH SCRIMSHIRE, SUBSCRIPTIONS EDITOR, AUSTRALIA asserted
I → cut → BRAY
Published: | Updated: When loyalty wasn't enough The hits just keep coming for Karl Stefanovic. asserted
hits → publish → Stefanovic
After a messy exit from Channel Nine and a bitter legal battle with his former business partner, the television star has been dealt another blow, sources say. asserted
sources → deal → blow
This time, he's missed out on the blockbuster first interview with Ben Roberts-Smith that he hoped would restore his battered reputation. asserted
he → miss → reputation
And to make matters worse, it's gone to one of his long-time media mates. asserted
it → make → mates
Inside Mail has been told the former Today host was convinced he had secured the interview coup of the year, with the former SAS soldier agreeing to sit down for an explosive tell-all about his fight to clear his name. asserted
soldier → tell → name
Stefanovic was said to be counting on the highly sought-after exclusive to give his podcast, The Karl Stefanovic Show, a much-needed boost after months of damaging headlines. But in what has been described as a last-minute twist, Australia's most decorated living soldier is understood to have pulled the pin and chosen 2GB's Ben Fordham for his initial sit-down - a huge win for the station's new owner Tapt Media. asserted
soldier → say → owner
Inside Mail has been told the former Today host was convinced he had secured the interview coup of the year, with former SAS soldier Ben Roberts-Smith agreeing to sit down for an explosive tell-all about his fight to clear his name On Wednesday, Karl's wife Jasmine posted a photo of him wearing some of BRS's merch The decision, we are told, was particularly bruising for Stefanovic, who has been good mates with Fordham for years and is said to be furious with both men. asserted
who → tell → men
Sources claim Roberts-Smith had grown increasingly concerned about the negative publicity surrounding Stefanovic and was reluctant to risk dragging his own new business venture - an online clothing brand called EPIC 1TWO - into the controversy. uncertain
Smith → claim → controversy
Instead, he opted for Fordham, whom he reportedly regarded as a more credible and safer choice to handle the interview. uncertain
he → opt → interview
Stefanovic, however, had been banking on the scoop to establish himself as a serious independent player in media, making the growing hype surrounding Fordham's interview a particularly bitter pill to swallow. And Fordham has wasted no time promoting his big exclusive, billing it as 'one of the biggest interviews of the year' that will 'spark debate right across the country'. asserted
that → bank → country
Adding to Stefanovic's rumoured frustration is his belief that his loyalty to Roberts-Smith should have counted for something. asserted
loyalty → add → something
In April, he publicly defended the former SAS soldier, questioning how Australia could expect troops to serve overseas if they feared facing prosecution years later. uncertain
they → defend → prosecution
Speaking on his podcast, Stefanovic argued that soldiers were not being adequately protected, declaring that he felt the country had let them down. asserted
country → speak → them
Karl Stefanovic (left) and Ben Fordham (centre) are long-time media mates His troubles continued in August when he decided to part ways with podcast business partner Keshnee Ibrahim (pictured), sparking a Supreme Court battle over ownership of the show Roberts-Smith and partner Sarah Matulin have gone into business together His support later reportedly put him at odds with senior Nine executives, with his controversial comments adding to tensions at the network. Stefanovic left Nine in June following furious backlash over his controversial podcast interview with British far-right activist Tommy Robinson, leaving The Karl Stefanovic Show as his main professional focus and a crucial source of income. His troubles continued in August when he decided to part ways with long-time friend and podcast business partner Keshnee Ibrahim (née Kemp), sparking a Supreme Court battle over ownership of the show. uncertain
he → continue → show
The decision is understood to have come almost overnight, with the pair holidaying together with their families just weeks earlier. asserted
pair → understand → families
According to sources, Stefanovic was panicking about his mounting financial commitments after losing his lucrative Nine salary and no longer wanted to share profits with the experienced marketing expert. uncertain
Stefanovic → accord → expert
The dispute was finally settled in October, with Stefanovic taking full control after buying out her 40 per cent stake. asserted
Stefanovic → settle → stake
When contacted about industry rumours that Stefanovic believed he had the BRS interview sewn up before it ultimately landed at 2GB, Fordham was quick to dismiss any suggestion of a falling-out. asserted
Fordham → contact → out
'There was no race or competition involved,' Fordham texted. ' asserted
Fordham → be → ?
If anything, Karl assisted me in securing the interview. asserted
Karl → assist → interview
He wasn't able to do it himself because of a legal issue associated with his show. asserted
He → do → show
'So when BRS suggested me, Karl encouraged him to do it. uncertain
Karl → suggest → it
Now that Karl has his podcast up and running again, don't be surprised if BRS pops up soon as a guest on The Karl Stefanovic Show.' Fair enough. But from where we're sitting, the legal headaches that might have prevented Stefanovic from landing the interview look to have been resolved some time ago, leaving plenty in media circles wondering how the scoop ultimately went to talkback radio instead of its far more natural home in the right-leaning podcast sphere... Taking the wheel The end of Carrie Bickmore and Tommy Little's reign on the Hit Network's national drive show was confirmed to staff on Wednesday afternoon. uncertain
end → have → afternoon
And now the picture of who will replace them is becoming much clearer. asserted
who → replace → them
Industry sources tell Inside Mail that Luisa Dal Din and Jack Archdale, better known as Lu & Jarch, are poised to take over the coveted slot, with SCA opting to promote from within rather than splash out on outside talent. asserted
SCA → tell → talent
The pair currently host Triple M's national early drive show, occupying the 2pm-4pm 'tradie clock-off' shift that bridges the gap between workday radio and the network's flagship Rush Hour programs. asserted
that → host → radio
The end of Carrie Bickmore and Tommy Little's reign on the Hit Network's national drive show was confirmed to staff on Wednesday afternoon. asserted
end → confirm → afternoon
(The co-hosts are pictured) asserted
hosts → picture → ?
Carrie Bickmore is expected to be unveiled as a new network drive host at ARN within days Luisa Dal Din and Jack Archdale, better known as Lu & Jarch, are poised to take over the coveted drive show slot at the Hit Network There has been industry chatter around Lu & Jarch for months, with reports earlier this year linking them to breakfast radio opportunities in Sydney. asserted
reports → expect → Sydney
Still, moving from Triple M's 2pm-4pm shift to Hit's marquee national drive show would represent a major step up in profile. asserted
moving → move → profile
As for why the changes are happening, that brings us to Bickmore. asserted
that → happen → Bickmore
As regular Inside Mail readers will know, she's headed for ARN, which is undergoing a major reset after The Kyle and Jackie O Show's spectacular implosion and subsequent litigation. asserted
which → know → implosion
She is expected to be unveiled as a new network drive host within days. asserted
She → expect → days
Whether Little joins her remains to be seen. asserted
joins → join → her
SCA declined to comment. asserted
SCA → decline → ?
Seven's cut-price I'm a Celeb - Opinion by Rob McKnight asserted
I → cut → McKnight
This afternoon, the Seven Network will be holding a lavish event at Luna Park as it pitches its big slate of shows for 2027 to advertisers. asserted
it → hold → advertisers
It's the annual 7UPFRONT showcase which will help determine the share of advertising revenue the company gets - if it can convince advertisers that free to air television (specifically Seven) is where it's at. asserted
it → help → where
Advertisers have been taking their money to big tech and streaming platforms instead of spending in the local industry... which they are entitled to do, but as companies like Netflix struggle to retain viewers (which has led to massive job cuts), free-to-air television in Australia has been steady, if not growing, in recent years. asserted
television → take → years
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