How Vance and Thiel Get the Antichrist Backwards

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JD Vance, who is now one heartbeat away from the presidency due to his position as Vice President, recently spoke about his fascination with apocalyptic prophecies during a podcast interview. He expressed that he wouldn’t be shocked if the Antichrist was currently active, despite holding significant political power. Meanwhile, Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel, Vance’s mentor and major financial backer who donated $15 million to support Vance’s campaign, has been promoting his own views on the Antichrist through essays and lectures. The article argues that both men are misinterpreting the concept of the Antichrist, using it as a tool for their own political gain rather than seeing it as a warning against accumulating power.
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In recent discussions, JD Vance, a potential candidate for higher office in the U.S., mentioned during an August podcast interview that he wouldn't be shocked if the Antichrist were alive today, reflecting his enduring fascination with apocalyptic prophecies. Meanwhile, Peter Thiel, Vance’s mentor and a prominent Silicon Valley figure who was an early investor in Facebook, has also focused on this theme. In summer 2023, Thiel published an essay titled “The Pope and the Antichrist” in the conservative religious journal First Things and had been giving secretive lectures about the Antichrist over the past year. The article questions whether such beliefs should influence American foreign policy decisions, given their potential to shape perceptions of global leaders and events.

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🔮 During a podcast interview with a young evangelical influencer at the end of August, JD Vance regaled his host with stories of his teenage “end times” preoccupation—but he also made clear that his fascination with apocalyptic prophecy continues today, going so far as to say he would “not [be] shocked if the Antichrist was walking among us.”
2026-10-09 · assertive framing · How Vance and Thiel Get the Antichrist Backwards
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American Catholic Facebook First Things PayPal

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Vance PERSON · 7× Thiel PERSON · 5× American NORP · 3× Christian NORP · 3× Catholic NORP · 2× Catholics NORP · 2× Protestant NORP · 2× Protestants NORP · 2× JD Vance PERSON · 1× Peter Thiel PERSON · 1×

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On one level, we shouldn’t be surprised—Antichrist chatter has been a near-constant refrain of Christian discourse since the earliest centuries, particularly in tumultuous times. But in our own apocalyptic-feeling moment—with its AI-doomsday predictions and the accelerating global depredations of climate change—it behooves us to understand why these two thought leaders of the American right have fixed their minds on the Antichrist specifically.
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🔮 During a podcast interview with a young evangelical influencer at the end of August, JD Vance regaled his host with stories of his teenage “end times” preoccupation—but he also made clear that his fascination with apocalyptic prophecy continues today, going so far as to say he would “not [be] shocked if the Antichrist was walking among us.”
2026-10-09 · The Bulwark
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During a podcast interview with a young evangelical influencer at the end of August, JD Vance regaled his host with stories of his teenage “end times” preoccupation—but he also made clear that his fascination with apocalyptic prophecy continues today, going so far as to say he would “not [be] shocked if the Antichrist was walking among us.” asserted
Antichrist → regale → us
These words are a little unnerving coming from someone one heartbeat away from the presidency. asserted
words → come → presidency
Should American foreign policy be guided by impressions of a “certain darkness” or “dark spiritual energy” such as the vice president claims to have felt around other leaders at world summits? uncertain
president → guide → summits
Relatedly, this summer, Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel—Vance’s mentor and sponsor—published an essay he’d coauthored in the right-wing religious journal First Things titled “The Pope and the Antichrist.” asserted
he → publish → journal
This was Thiel’s follow-up to a series of secretive, “off-the-record” lectures on the Antichrist that he has taken on tour over the past year. asserted
he → take → year
Thiel’s obsession with the Antichrist merits close examination. asserted
obsession → merit → examination
He is the first outside investor in Facebook and belonged to the infamous PayPal Mafia, a real Silicon Valley mover and shaker. asserted
He → belong → Mafia
And Thiel is JD Vance’s moneybags patron, donating $15 million to a super PAC backing Vance’s 2022 Ohio Senate campaign, setting a record at the time. asserted
Thiel → donate → time
On one level, we shouldn’t be surprised—Antichrist chatter has been a near-constant refrain of Christian discourse since the earliest centuries, particularly in tumultuous times. But in our own apocalyptic-feeling moment—with its AI-doomsday predictions and the accelerating global depredations of climate change—it behooves us to understand why these two thought leaders of the American right have fixed their minds on the Antichrist specifically. asserted
leaders → accelerate → Antichrist
Notably, Thiel and Vance both have the Antichrist entirely upside down: speaking from positions of immense power, they are using the idea as a tool to further their own power—precisely what the concept is meant to warn against. asserted
concept → have → what
The vice president has been weighing in on faith topics a lot to promote his Catholic-come-lately conversion memoir, Communion. asserted
Catholic → weigh → memoir
It was during a conversation with Bryce Crawford, a popular 22-year-old evangelical podcaster, that Vance offered his ruminations about the Antichrist and the end times. asserted
Vance → offer → Antichrist
As with many things Vance has done recently—including a brush-back pitch at the pope for criticizing the war in Iran—his comments set many lifelong Catholics’ teeth on edge. asserted
comments → do → edge
For many non-millenarian strands of Christianity, adherents foster a spiritual hope in Christ’s return to earth, but they generally refrain from speculating about specific timelines or attaching the prospect of the Second Coming to current events. asserted
they → foster → events
All of history since Pentecost could technically be classified as the “end times” on this view, because the Church has been awaiting Jesus’ return since his ascension into heaven. uncertain
Church → classify → heaven
Across the Christian tradition writ large, this is the mainstream position, one held today by most Catholics and many old-school confessional Protestants. asserted
this → writ → Catholics
From the sixteenth century to the present, the Reformers’ core doctrine of sola scriptura—which calls for reading the Bible against itself rather than through the stacked lenses of inherited traditions of Christian authority—lent Protestant eschatology a somewhat tumultuous character. asserted
eschatology → call → authority
That doctrine and its American evangelical corollary, Bible-onlyism, have driven generation after generation back to the Good Book for fresh interpretations of the end of the world. asserted
doctrine → drive → world
So it is primarily Protestants who’ve developed the many manias of millenarianism, including the more raucous contemporary ones that have become culturally predominant within evangelicalism during this century. asserted
that → develop → century
What made cradle Catholics wince was that Vance was steering back into all of the assumptions and fixations of his Protestant evangelical youth despite his avowed turn toward a hardline Catholic identity in recent years. asserted
Vance → make → years
Speculating about which living world leader might be the Antichrist and connecting current events to biblical imagery of the end of the world—that’s a millenarian (specifically, premillennial) hobbyhorse, familiar to many (including me) who grew up in American evangelical churches. uncertain
who → speculate → churches
Some Catholic critics read the whole episode as a sign of Vance being inauthentically Catholic—“three evangelicals in a trench coat” was how one X user sardonically described him. asserted
user → read → him
But Vance’s religious blundering can be better read as an expression of his ambition to inherit the mantle of Donald Trump, the unlikely carnival-barker king of the American evangelicals. asserted
blundering → read → evangelicals
Vance knows that evangelicals are the vulnerable right flank he’ll need to shore up for his presidential ambitions to remain viable. asserted
ambitions → know → ?
BUT VANCE’S SPECULATIVE PODCASTING about the Antichrist looks like meager apprentice work when compared to the bold-letter, years-long obsession of Thiel, who moonlights as a theologian and a philosopher. asserted
who → look → theologian
These deeper interests are part of what drew Vance to Thiel in the first place. asserted
what → draw → place
A lecture the PayPal mafioso delivered at Yale Law School in 2011, Vance has written, awakened the future vice president from his atheistic slumber: Thiel was “possibly the smartest person I’d ever met, but he was also a Christian.” Thiel is fixated on the Antichrist as a concept. uncertain
Thiel → deliver → concept
That’s unremarkable for an evangelical—but Thiel, although raised in an evangelical family, can hardly be said to embrace standard-issue evangelicalism today. asserted
Thiel → ’ → evangelicalism
He’s a gay man whose marriage enjoys legal protections most evangelicals fought against and continue to oppose, but he nonetheless collaborates with evangelical groups to get his message out. asserted
he → ’ → message
Thiel has described himself as a “heterodox Christian,” which is another way of saying that he has made a self-aware break with traditional Christian orthodoxy on at least some matters of theological significance. asserted
he → describe → significance
The heterodoxy is flashing red in Thiel’s understanding of his core subject. asserted
heterodoxy → flash → subject
Tellingly, his lectures and public writing on the Antichrist have very little to do with Christ himself. asserted
lectures → have → Christ
Jesus seems mostly absent from Thiel’s eschatology and his theology in general. asserted
Jesus → seem → general
Surely, if the word means anything, antichristos signals the opposite of christos. asserted
antichristos → mean → christos
What gives? asserted
What → give → ?
Before we get into what gives, consider joining our Bulwark+ community—one of the very best on Al Gore’s internet. asserted
what → get → internet
Right now, you can get 30 percent off an annual membership, which will give you access to everything we produce, including unique political-theological essays like this one. asserted
we → get → one
In truth, even calling Thiel’s Antichrist interpretation “theological” or “biblical” is a bit of a stretch. asserted
calling → call → stretch
His account is fundamentally eclectic, stitching together his own Protestant upbringing, his ideology of techno-libertarian power, Carl Schmitt’s Nazi political theory, and ideas he has adapted from the French theorist René Girard, who taught at Stanford while Thiel was a student there. asserted
Thiel → stitch → Stanford
In his First Things essay, Thiel warns that the real harbinger of the apocalypse is any move toward “totalitarian peace and safety.” asserted
harbinger → warn → peace
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