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Chancellor slaps down his Treasury minister who claimed employers are 'not working people' - as John Healey insists his Budget offers 'breathing space' for firms

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Chancellor John Healey contradicted his Treasury minister Emma Reynolds after she claimed that employers are not "working people" during a TV interview on Sunday. Healey distanced himself from Reynolds's statement in the House of Commons and defended his recent Budget, which he said provides relief for both individuals and businesses, including 70,000 high street businesses being exempted from business rates. The controversy centers on Labour’s manifesto pledge not to raise taxes on working people, with questions arising over whether employers fall under this category.

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In a political showdown on November 3, 2026, Chancellor John Healey publicly contradicted his Treasury minister Emma Reynolds after she controversially claimed that employers are not "working people" during an interview with GB News. The disagreement erupted when Ms. Reynolds faced criticism for the Labour government's recent Budget measures, which increased taxes on landlords and savers. She defended the policy by suggesting these were business entities rather than individuals, a stance that contradicted the party’s earlier manifesto promise not to raise taxes on working people. Chancellor Healey distanced himself from her remarks in Parliament, asserting that employers are indeed considered working people. This incident highlights internal divisions within the Labour government over defining who qualifies as a "working person" and the challenges of fulfilling pre-election promises amid economic pressures.

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Chancellor John Healey today slapped down one of his Treasury ministers who suggested employers are not 'working people'.

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🔮 She said: 'At the weekend the Chancellor said the Budget would provide breathing space for families and working people.

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Emma Reynolds came under fire at the weekend after she attempted to make a distinction over who Labour considers to be a working person He added: 'It's why in this Budget I protected income that is earned, I protected income that is earned through dividends, which are reinvested into business. '

framing: assertive · carried by 1 article(s) · first seen 2026-11-03

🔮 She said: 'At the weekend the Chancellor said the Budget would provide breathing space for families and working people.

2026-11-03 · Daily Mail

Chancellor slaps down his Treasury minister who claimed employers are 'not working people' - as John Healey insists his Budget offers 'breathing space' for firms · assertive framing

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Chancellor John Healey today slapped down one of his Treasury ministers who suggested employers are not 'working people'. uncertain

employers → slap → ministers

Mr Healey contradicted comments made by Emma Reynolds, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, as he sought to extinguish a furious row. asserted

he → contradict → row

Ms Reynolds came under fire at the weekend after she attempted to make a distinction over who Labour considers to be a working person. asserted

Labour → come → distinction

It came as she was grilled during an awkward TV interview over the Government's decision to increase the tax burden on landlords and savers at last week's Budget. asserted

she → come → Budget

She was challenged on whether Labour had broken its manifesto by ramping up taxes, after the party promised in 2024 not to raise them on working people. 'I don't think employers are working people, they are companies,' Ms Reynolds told GB News on Sunday. asserted

Reynolds → challenge → Sunday

But, quizzed about Ms Reynolds' comments in the House of Commons on Tuesday, Mr Healey publicly distanced himself from his Treasury colleague's remarks. asserted

Healey → quiz → remarks

'Of course they are,' the Chancellor said, when asked whether he thought employers are working people. asserted

employers → say → ?

Chancellor John Healey today slapped down one of his Treasury ministers who suggested employers are not 'working people'. uncertain

employers → slap → ministers

which → come → business

I promised a breathing space Budget, that's what I've delivered. asserted

I → promise → what

'70,000 high street businesses taken out of business rates altogether to lift our local areas.' Mr Healey was tackled over Ms Reynolds' remarks by Tory former Cabinet minister Esther McVey. asserted

Healey → take → McVey

She said: 'At the weekend the Chancellor said the Budget would provide breathing space for families and working people. asserted

Budget → say → families

So, can he tell the House today, does he agree with his minister... who thinks employers aren't working people?' asserted

employers → tell → minister

Ms Reynolds had used the TV interview on Sunday to defend the Budget measures announced by the Chancellor last week. asserted

Reynolds → use → Chancellor

This included landlords and savers being hit by an extra two percentage points added to income tax on property and savings income. asserted

landlords → include → income

In the interview, host Camilla Tominey asked whether, because she employed a cleaner, she was not a working person. asserted

she → ask → cleaner

Ms Reynolds replied: 'No, but you're an employee probably of your company, and I'm saying there is a difference between employers and employees.' asserted

I → reply → employers

The exchange revived the debate about who Labour considers to be a working person, after the party's 2024 manifesto pledge not to raise taxes on them, including through VAT, national insurance, and income tax. asserted

Labour → revive → VAT

Former chancellor Rachel Reeves's increase in the employers' rate of national insurance in October 2024 led to accusations of a manifesto breach. But ministers argued it was not, because it hit employers, not employees. asserted

it → lead → employers

Ms Reynolds told the broadcaster: 'In the manifesto, we were clear that we would not increase the headline rate of income tax, which we haven't done, and we haven't increased VAT, and we haven't increased national insurance for employees.' asserted

we → tell → employees

Tory shadow business minister Bradley Thomas said: 'Labour's patronising, out-of-touch, politics of envy on display here from Minister Emma Reynolds. asserted

Thomas → say → Reynolds

'What about the thousands of small businesses who employ people? asserted

who → employ → people

The electrician who works but takes on apprentices? asserted

who → work → apprentices

The florist who runs her shop and has a young person work a few hours on weekends? asserted

person → run → weekends

A Treasury spokesperson said: 'This Government has shown repeatedly and in the face of a difficult global economic backdrop that we will stick to our manifesto tax commitments. asserted

we → say → commitments

We are being fiscally disciplined whilst keeping our promises not to increase the rates of income tax, national insurance, VAT, or corporation tax.' asserted

We → discipline → tax