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Fresh embarrassment for Britain as European nations 'discuss defending the Atlantic without the Royal Navy' due to dire state of the fleet

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Wilcock, D. (2026, November 2). Fresh embarrassment for Britain as European nations 'discuss defending the Atlantic without the Royal Navy' due to dire state of the fleet. Daily Mail. https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16259077/Britain-European-nations-defending-Atlantic-without-Royal-Navy.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=1490

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European nations, including France, Italy, Spain, and the Netherlands, have held secret discussions about defending the North Atlantic without relying on the Royal Navy due to concerns over Britain's naval capabilities. This comes after a series of embarrassments for the UK, such as HMS Dragon's delayed deployment to the Mediterranean in March, which prompted other nations like Greece and France to step in with assistance. The article highlights growing pressure on British ministers to increase funding for the military and expedite shipbuilding to address the perceived decline in naval strength.

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As of November 3, 2026, European nations such as France, Italy, Spain, and the Netherlands are reportedly discussing ways to defend the North Atlantic without relying on the Royal Navy due to concerns about its current state. This development follows a year in which Britain faced significant embarrassment over the readiness of its naval fleet, highlighted by incidents like HMS Dragon taking three weeks to reach the eastern Mediterranean after an attack at RAF Akrotiri airbase in Cyprus. British defense ministers are under intense pressure to boost funding and expedite ship construction. Tory shadow defence minister Ben Obese-Jecty criticized the situation, stating it is "absolutely damning" that European allies can no longer rely on Britain's naval presence.

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Britain's closest European military allies have held talks about how to defend the North Atlantic in the absence of the Royal Navy amid growing concern at the state of the fleet.

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Britain's closest European military allies have held talks about how to defend the North Atlantic in the absence of the Royal Navy amid growing concern at the state of the fleet. asserted

allies → hold → fleet

France is said to have quietly convened talks with Italy, Spain and the Netherlands on how to plug gaps left by the absence of working British warships, in the face of growing Russian belligerence. asserted

France → say → belligerence

Ministers are already under immense pressure to increase funding for the Armed Forces and speed up the building of warships after a year of embarrassment. asserted

Ministers → increase → embarrassment

It included HMS Dragon taking three weeks to get to the eastern Mediterranean after RAF Akrotiri airbase in Cyprus was hit by a Shahed-136 drone in March. asserted

airbase → include → March

It meant that European nations including Greece and France had to step in in the meantime. asserted

nations → mean → meantime

Tory shadow defence minister Ben Obese-Jecty said it was 'absolutely damning that our European allies feel they can no longer rely upon the Royal Navy’s presence in the North Atlantic'. asserted

they → say → Atlantic

France is said to have quietly convened talks with Italy, Spain and the Netherlands on how to plug gaps left by the absence of working British warships Ministers are already under immense pressure to increase funding for the Armed Forces and speed up the building of warships after a year of embarrassment ' asserted

Ministers → say → embarrassment

We’re seeing the impact of our inability to fulfil our Standing NATO Maritime Group One commitment this summer. asserted

We → see → commitment

The Government urgently needs to adopt our faster frigates plan to accelerate the build of Type 26 and Type 31 frigates.' asserted

Government → need → frigates

The European meeting was first reported by Defence Eye, which said it came ahead of a major defence show in Paris. asserted

it → report → Paris

It also said talks had been held about the Royal Navy 'borrowing' French ships to help defend British nuclear missile submarines as they enter and leave their UK base in Scotland. asserted

they → say → Scotland

In March the UK had to ask Germany for the use of a warship to keep a major Nato commitment after sending Dragon to the Mediterranean, because no other ships were available. asserted

ships → have → Mediterranean

Berlin deployed the frigate Sachsen with British officers aboard as the flagship of an alliance maritime task group. asserted

Berlin → deploy → group

At the Budget last week, Chancellor John Healey filled a £4.7billion black hole in the defence investment plan, a blueprint that takes Britain’s defence spending to 2.7 per cent of gross domestic product (GDP) by 2027. asserted

that → fill → 2027

He also committed to spending 3 per cent of GDP on defence by 2030 as a step towards meeting Britain’s commitment to Nato to spend 3.5 per cent by 2035. asserted

He → commit → 2035

But the Chancellor said details of where this cash will come from will be left until the spending review, pencilled in for next autumn. asserted

cash → say → autumn

The Sunday Times this weekend reported that workers in Scotland may be placed on a war footing to work double shifts and speed up work on the new Type 31 frigates currently due to enter service in the early 2030s. uncertain

workers → report → 2030s

It would aim to bring them into service in 2028 along with Type 26 ships. asserted

It → aim → ships

Fresh embarrassment for Britain as European nations 'discuss defending the Atlantic without the Royal Navy' due to dire state of the fleet

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